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Karmela Padavic Callaghan's avatar

I was just listening to this old interview with Garth Greenwell where he talks about negative theology as connected to writing about sex, and what you may call debased sex specifically, and found it really compelling: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2qsSuAjG60YO0vPKAHNonu?si=wQjzFXnqSvajO_RiX4k9BQ Also really loved the Cain record for how much more stripped down and drone-y it is than the last one, it made me think about how visceral drone is, from what you may hear in the womb to what ancient peoples heard when they chanted in echoey caves, it’s never not a little mystical

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Michelle Santiago Cortés's avatar

i loved this record SO MUCH, it’s my favorite from her for sure

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Celine Nguyen's avatar

I really, really enjoyed reading this and especially the discussion at the end of different ways to transcend the self (in an exalted, positively transformative way…or in a shaming, debasing way).

As a reader, it was really exciting to see you pull together some very different works (Cain/Critchley, music/literature) which I haven’t seen discussed like this—it felt very fresh and unexpected

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Michelle Santiago Cortés's avatar

part 2 is much more film and theory forward. ive been overall a bit on the fence about discussing transcendence because it can read as *too religious* but also, its everywhere i see people write about the media they love! is that just me?

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Celine Nguyen's avatar

ia it can feel very religious…but I would love more secular approaches (or: treating artistic creation/experience as a spiritual endeavor)

this is reminding me of a passage from Rob Doyle's book Thresholds, where the narrator's friend suggests that, even though he's abandoned his childhood Catholic faith, he's essentially replaced it with a reverence for literature…his saints are the great writers he admires https://arc.net/l/quote/uvwcavgr

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